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Agen Sabung Ayam – Join the Debate: How Should We Balance Civil Liberties and National Security?

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Enhanced security in front of the Louvre museum in Paris on Monday. Credit Tomas Munita for The New York Occasions

The deadly terrorist attacks in Paris final week have reignited a debate in a lot of the globe on the balance in between civil liberties and national safety.

We selected seven readers who left comments related to this subject on Instances articles and who represent a range of viewpoints and backgrounds. The following segments are primarily based on these comments and follow-up interviews. They have been condensed and edited.

Please add your own views by leaving a comment. Inform us how you wrestle with this debate, and how, if at all, the attacks in Paris changed your views. Please contain where you reside and data on your background or life experiences that might have influenced your opinion.

A Threat From â??Radicalized Muslim Citizensâ??

Rajeev Achari, 53 â?? A doctor who was raised in Calcutta and lives in Phoenix. He was operating as an emergency area medical professional in Brooklyn on Sept. 11, 2001. He now identifies as an atheist.

â??The greatest terrorist threat to European and American cities comes from radicalized Muslim citizens. The Islamic State needs to be defeated in time, but the main effort needs to be in intelligence gathering. The French and Belgian intelligence organizations appear to have been caught with their pants down. A a lot much more robust monitoring of mosques, Muslim neighborhood centers and donor networks is required. If this calls for suspension of civil liberties, that bitter pill demands to be swallowed.

â??I have formed my views on religion and particularly on religious fundamentalists a lot by what occurred on 9/11. Now that this occurred in Paris, the feeling of a sense of shock is repeated. This type of brings back those memories. You really feel anew the feelings of loss, of sadness.â?

â??A Quick Road to Tyrannyâ??

Roger Schwarz, 65 â?? A criminal lawyer in New York City. His grandmother was killed at Auschwitz throughout Globe War II, and the rest of his loved ones had to leave Germany and emigrate to the United States.

â??As a lawyer, I recommend that amending or abrogating a constitution in the name of fighting terrorism is one of the greatest threats to a free society â?? practically as great as terrorism itself. When we permit higher government intrusion into our privacy, broader searches and fewer procedural safeguards, we travel on a short road to tyranny.

â??Elected representatives lack the courage and fortitude to reside up to their oaths to preserve and protect the constitution and supply only shortsighted, get-challenging rhetoric to fan the flames of fear. This is the greatest toll that the terrorists precise on all of us.

â??We know from previous history, like in Germany in the 1930s and 1940s, what happens when you suspend the constitution â?? the tremendous threat that poses to the complete nation in the longer term.

â??I consider the framers drafted the Constitution with fantastic wisdom, and I believe there is usually a risk at times like this when folks are fearful. It is specifically when we have to be most vigilant about safeguarding and defending the Constitution.â?

â??Vengeance Felt Extremely Good to Meâ??

â??Lilouâ? â?? An American from Santa Monica, Calif., who comments beneath that name. She lives in Paris, where she teaches English. She lives about 5 miles from the Bataclan concert hall, exactly where 89 folks have been killed. She stated that she was in California on Sept. 11, and she didnâ??t feel the exact same sadness and anger as she did following the attacks in Paris.

â??My beliefs have moved toward the right given that Friday. I feel having one thing in your own backyard tends to make a distinction.

â??I do think the Islamic State, or Daesh, has been an insidious enemy all along, and have written that they ought to be stopped. But I never, until now, advocated the extremely unpolitically appropriate view of military retaliation (versus negotiation).

â??I was extremely satisfied when France sent their jets. The vengeance felt quite very good to me. The notion of killing innocent civilians has never appealed to me. It is very bizarre for me to all of a sudden, following the events in Paris Friday night, be pleased that an individual went and bombed Syria. I know that civilians died, so within my happiness is some guilt. But I am not unhappy that we took a measure against Syria and really Daesh.

â??While I preferred the Middle Eastern immigrant surge be limited to just these fleeing for their lives, primarily based on price and quality-of-life factors, now there are such numbers of immigrants flowing by way of to Germany, that there is not sufficient border patrol staff to procedure their asylum applications.

â??After a Syrian passport was discovered with one of the suicide bombers at the Stade de France, it created me modify my mind about the refugees. I have Muslim pals and clientele who are not extremist, and I did not take seriously that the refugees could harbor jihadists. I was wrong.

â??As to deportation or house arrest of suspected terrorists, I have developed yet another extremely politically incorrect point of view, that is, selectively monitoring suspected terrorists â?? not everyone. Each and every nation has a list of suspects, which I now think must be acted on.â?

â??Let Us Not Blame European Muslimsâ??

Ghulam Faruki, 81 â?? A retired psychiatrist from Ahmedabad, India, who lives in Queensbury, N.Y. He emigrated to the United States in 1964 for its far better operating situations, employment opportunities and lack of discrimination against Muslims. â??In 1964 there was no anti-Muslim discrimination in the United States,â? he said. â??9/11 did adjust a lot of factors.â?

â??Let us not blame European Muslims for what are basically failures of French intelligence.

â??I do not imply to criticize or blame French intelligence. It is just a reality that the intelligence failed.

â??When this incident occurred, the Muslim community has to go through a lot connected to how are we are looked upon. Men and women are criticizing us, folks are blaming us. The Muslim community, each in the United States and in Europe, has to go by means of a period of pressure since these issues take place â?? which is not their fault at all.â?

â??Focus Our Consideration on the Actual Enemiesâ??

Valerie Natale, 50 â?? A biomedical scientist who lives in Santa Clara, Calif., and has a degree in history.

â??Better, focused intelligence is what we need, not wholesale spying on everyone from Joe the Plumber to Angela Merkel. We need to have to concentrate our attention on the actual enemies, not the imagined ones like ordinary Americans, allies, and even Saddam Hussein. The lies, the overly broad wiretapping, and the wars in the wrong areas have all helped get us where we are.

â??What we want to do now is to assess our blunders honestly so as to avoid generating them again and once again, so as to locate a way out of this mess. Bomb a city, and you create a recruiting drive. Target the leaders, and you do absolutely everyone a favor.

â??I try to react making use of logic and rational believed rather than emotions. I recognize it â?? you get hurt and you want to lash out. It is O.K. to feel that way, but I donâ??t consider it is a good idea to then go act on these feelings.

â??Hard Queries for François Hollandeâ??

â??Vieillemontagne,â? 50 â?? A Frenchman living in Britain who comments under that deal with. He criticized the French president, François Hollande, for his handling of the terrorism threat.

â??The tough questions for François Hollande are going to be: Why didnâ??t he take some of these initiatives at the starting of the year, soon after the terrorist attack on the satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo? Why didnâ??t he take them when it became clear, a handful of months ago, as he now says, that some huge terrorist attacks have been becoming ready?

â??We have to continue to reside, but to do this, we have to be convinced that governments have their act collectively and that there are no inefficiencies.

â??Good of Several Have to Outweigh Individual Freedom of Fewâ??

â??GMR,â? 62 â?? A paralegal living in Atlanta who comments under those initials.

Rather than taking away freedoms from the overwhelmingly compliant masses of citizens, why donâ??t we focus on the noncompliant minority, for example those who travel to Syria for radicalization. And in an emergency state, which France is declared to be in, we ought to revoke their French citizenship when they leave for a single of those countries with no prior approval from the government.

I donâ??t feel it is unreasonable to ask citizens who seek to travel to war-torn countries for personal reasons to justify such factors in advance. If a single doesnâ??t have evil intentions, this must not be a dilemma.

I believe the foremost job of a national government is to protect its citizens. The excellent of the several should outweigh the individual freedom of the few to advance their religious or other private agenda when these couple of are looking for to do harm to fellow citizens.

A handful of freedoms of expression or individual freedoms may possibly have to be suspended in an interim period when there are grave things going on. It is for the frequent great in an intense predicament.

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